How to tackle the AI job apocalypse
2025-12-31_13-43 • 2m 48s
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Our
next
guest
warns
that
an
AI-fueled
job
apocalypse
is
on
the
horizon.
Let's
bring
in
Saul
Khan.
He's
the
CEO
of
the
Khan
Academy.
In
his
latest
piece
for
the
New
York
Times,
Saul
makes
the
pitch
that
every
company
benefiting
from
automation
should
dedicate
1%
of
profits
to
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00:17.720
help
retrain
workers
who
will
be
displaced
by
AI.
Saul,
first
of
all,
thanks
for
being
here.
Second
of
all,
this
is
a
pretty
radical
proposal,
but
let's
lay
out
what
you
think
is
happening.
Why
we
think
this
job
apocalypse
is
coming?
Sal Khan (CEO & Founder)
00:33.760
Yeah,
you
know,
as
soon
as
generative
AI
became
a
big
thing,
obviously
this
has
been
a
big
debate,
will
we
have
net
loss
jobs,
net
gain
jobs?
Um
and
living
out
here
in
Silicon
Valley,
most
people
have
been
on,
"Hey,
this
is
going
to
be
like
the
industrial
revolution."
We'll
Sal Khan (CEO & Founder)
00:46.800
just,
you
know,
there
there'll
be
jobs,
we
can't
name
them,
but
they'll
they'll
happen.
But
what
we're
seeing
now,
you
know,
in
that
op-ed
I
talk
about
seeing
the
Waymo's
in
my
neighborhood
and
that's
cool,
but
then
I
go
and
meet
with
a
friend
who
who
is
thinking
about
uh
Sal Khan (CEO & Founder)
00:59.000
contributing
1%
of
his
firm's
profits
for
re-skilling
and
and
his
motivation
was
he's
uh
taken
over
our
call
center
in
the
Philippines
and
he's
going
to
be
laying
off
80%
of
of
the
workforce
and
replacing
them
with
an
AI.
Uh
that's
that's
7
to
10%
of
the
Filipino
GDP
directly.
Sal Khan (CEO & Founder)
01:16.800
Um
driving
some
form
of
a
vehicle
is
4
to
5
million
workers
just
the
United
States.
It's
the
biggest
one
of
the
biggest
sources
of
employment
for
men
globally,
including
in
the
United
States.
Um
and
even
if
you
look
at
white-collar
jobs,
We
A
lot
of
people
are
talking
about
and
Sal Khan (CEO & Founder)
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seeing
what's
happening
in
software
engineering
right
now.
It
seems
kind
of
frozen.
Uh
there
things
like
product
management,
design,
we're
seeing
that
those
jobs
are
at
least
changing.
Uh
you're
not
seeing
a
lot
of
net
hiring.
If
if
anything,
there's
a
lot
of
things
going
the
Sal Khan (CEO & Founder)
01:46.760
other
way.
And
And
the
only
way
to
to
think
about
how
to
navigate
this,
I
think
if
folks
wait
too
long,
uh
the
political
wins
are
going
to
switch.
We've
already
seen
that
populism
can
can
can
get
a
lot
of
momentum
off
of
things
things
like
globalization
and
immigration.
I
think
Sal Khan (CEO & Founder)
02:03.480
automation
is
going
to
hit
a
lot
harder.
And
1%
isn't
without
precedent,
as
I
mentioned
my
one
of
my
friends,
he
hasn't
announced
it
yet.
That's
why
I'm
not
naming
their
firm,
but
it's
a
major
firm.
There's
Ares
Capital,
another
major
asset
manager.
They
have
a
class
of
funds,
Sal Khan (CEO & Founder)
02:18.440
several
billion
dollars
under
management
where
they're
giving
5%
of
their
promote
to
a
a
philanthropy
for
They're
doing
healthcare
and
education,
but
that's
related
to
reskilling.
So
the
The
pitch
here
is
it's
in
it's
in
company's
best
interest.
This
isn't
going
to
be
just,
you
Sal Khan (CEO & Founder)
02:33.840
know,
hope
isn't
a
strategy
here.
We
have
to
get
ahead
of
the
curve.
The
the
benefits
of
doing
something
significantly
weigh
out
the
alternative.
And
I
think
if
if
we
don't
do
something,
politics
are
going
to
take
over
and
that's
going
to
be
worse
for
everyone.
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