Simpson: The Dogs of the Dow is a great pool to filter for quality companies
2025-12-31_12-21 • 4m 2s
Frank Holland (Anchor)
00:00.000
All
right.
So,
Kevin,
you
know,
I
asked
for
you
specifically.
You're
a
dividend-focused
investor.
I
want
to
talk
to
you
about
this
strategy.
In
outperforming
the
Dow
this
year,
is
this
something
that
you
would
do
year
after
year?
Is
this
a
viable
strategy
for
investors?
Kevin Simpson (Founder & CEO)
00:11.800
Listen,
Frank,
I
don't
think
any
passive
strategy
is
the
way
I
would
play
it,
but
I
think
the
dogs
of
the
Dow
is
a
phenomenal
place
to
look
for
and
identify
great
companies.
So,
you
think
of
it
as
a
as
a
as
a
pool
to
siphon
through.
Because
what
you're
looking
for
are
Kevin Simpson (Founder & CEO)
00:26.280
high-quality
great
companies
that
are
out
of
favor,
and
you
want
to
get
into
them
before
they're
in
vogue
again.
And
yes,
2025
was
a
great
year
for
the
dogs.
They
were
up
over
17%
which
outperformed
the
broader
Dow
which
I
think
was
up
somewhere
in
the
the
13%
range.
But
it's
Kevin Simpson (Founder & CEO)
00:42.640
worth
noting
I
think
that
the
the
passive
strategies
are
fine
but
it's
exactly
the
the
thesis
that
I
have
of
using
this
as
a
filter
why
our
actively
managed
strategy
if
you
just
look
at
DVO
it
outperformed
both
of
those
names.
But
equity
income
worked
for
a
reason.
It
was
Kevin Simpson (Founder & CEO)
00:58.480
healthcare,
legacy
tech
and
balance
sheet
discipline,
not
speculation.
Okay.
Frank Holland (Anchor)
01:04.760
You
say
a
big
part
of
this
list
is
going
to
stay
in
tech.
Amgen,
Johnson
&
Johnson,
Verizon,
Chevron,
Merck,
Coca-Cola,
and
Procter
&
Gamble,
if
you
want
to
play
the
strategy.
You
as
a
dividend-focused
investor,
which
one
of
those
names
are
you
are
you
most
bullish
on
going
into
Frank Holland (Anchor)
01:17.960
next
year?
I'm
not
saying
Dogs
of
the
Dow,
but
if
you
want
to
use
it
as
a
starting
point
as
you're
saying,
which
of
these
names
do
you
like?
Kevin Simpson (Founder & CEO)
01:24.000
Yeah,
I
mean
to
me
the
healthcare
stands
out.
We've
started
to
see
that
trade
come
to
life
at
the
end
of
2025.
See
You've
got
Amgen,
you've
got
Merck,
you've
got
JNJ.
I
I
would
continue
to
focus
there
within
the
healthcare
space.
Number
one.
Number
two,
if
you're
looking
just
Kevin Simpson (Founder & CEO)
01:38.920
for
yield,
if
you're
a
dividend
player,
Verizon
always
seems
to
top
that
list
because
it's
a
very
slow
growth
company,
which
translates
to
a
slow
appreciation
of
the
stock,
but
you
get
an
8.5%
forward
multiple.
And
Frank,
the
stock's
paying
almost
a
7%
dividend.
So,
if
you're
an
Kevin Simpson (Founder & CEO)
01:55.960
equity
income
investor
and
income
is
your
primary
objective,
You
can
look
at
Verizon.
And
the
third
place
I
would
look
at,
which
is
a
newcomer
to
the
list
is
Home
Depot.
Underperformed
last
year
for
a
lot
of
different
reasons.
It's
not
just
a
yield
play.
It's
not
just
yield
Kevin Simpson (Founder & CEO)
02:10.800
coming
down
to
refresh
the
housing
cycle.
I
really
think
that
there's
opportunities
that
if
it
just
normalizes
Home
Depot
can
be
a
winner
in
2026.
So
those
are
the
names
that
I
like.
Okay,
Frank Holland (Anchor)
02:21.600
I
want
to
keep
the
metaphor
going.
We're
calling
this
that
you
know
it's
obviously
the
dogs
that
out.
You
say
some
of
these
dogs
have
fleas.
What's
a
flea
when
it
comes
to
this
strategy?
Clearly
a
flea
is
something
you
want
to
stay
away
with.
Kevin Simpson (Founder & CEO)
02:31.000
Well,
you
know,
the
idea
is
anytime
you're
looking
at
a
passive
list,
there's
dogs
in
this
case
there
are
dogs
for
a
reason.
So
I
think
you
really
need
to
be
selective
and
anytime
that
you're
building
portfolios
and
that's
the
lesson
here,
that's
the
teaching
moment.
As
Kevin Simpson (Founder & CEO)
02:44.320
professional
portfolio
managers,
you
got
to
start
somewhere.
You
got
to
you've
got
to
build
a
list
somewhere.
And
I'll
always
look
at
the
dogs
of
the
Dow
as
a
primary
objective
of
dividends
that
are
attractive,
but
I'm
looking
for
things
that
are
a
little
bit
out
of
favor.
If
Kevin Simpson (Founder & CEO)
02:58.400
you
can
buy
low
and
sell
high
you
know,
easier
said
than
done,
but
things
tend
to
work
out
really
well.
I
think
2026
can
be
another
good
year
for
this
style
box
because
I
don't
see
rates
going
higher.
That
narrative,
you
know,
that
macro
narrative
plays
into
2026.
Yields
were
at
Kevin Simpson (Founder & CEO)
03:15.360
10-year
uh
yields
were
4.8
to
start
2025,
finishing
up
here
around
4.1.
If
we
get
just
one
more
rate
cut
next
year,
it
still
makes
dividend-paying
stocks
look
good.
But
according
to
Bespoke,
the
dogs
of
the
Dow
2025
performance
was
the
best
that
we've
seen
since
2019.
That
was
a
Kevin Simpson (Founder & CEO)
03:34.000
long
time
ago.
They
underperformed
in
23,
they
underperformed
in
24.
So
the
message
there
is
just
making
sure
that
you
do
your
homework
and
that
you're
selective
not
just
taking
the
easy
road
and
and
buying
a
passive
list.
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