Bank of America's Aditya Bhave shares his 2026 economic outlook
2025-12-30_22-17 • 4m 8s
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00:00.000
Joining
me
now
is
Aditya
Bhave,
senior
US
economist
at
Bank
of
America.
Aditya,
welcome.
So,
what
happens
to
concerns
about
a
K-shaped
economy
in
2026
and
this
theme
of
affordability
in
the
political
discourse?
Aditya Bhave (Senior U.S. Economist)
00:14.440
Thank
you.
Good
evening.
So,
let's
start
by
talking
about
our
forecast
for
next
year.
As
you
noted,
we're
quite
optimistic.
Five
tailwinds,
what
are
they?
First,
fiscal
policy.
We
think
the
stimulus
from
the
big
beautiful
bill
for
CapEx,
for
consumers
adds
three
to
4/10th
GDP
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growth
next
year.
Second,
the
lag
defect
of
Fed
cuts,
so
that's
monetary
stimulus.
Third,
we
think
the
AI
related
tailwind
should
continue
next
year.
Fourth,
we
think
trade
policy
is
going
to
be
more
supportive
for
growth
next
year
than
this
year.
And
that's
true
regardless
of
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what
happens
with
the
IEA
tariffs
in
the
Supreme
Court.
And
then
fifth,
the
base
effects
from
the
shutdown
should
also
be
helpful
for
growth
next
year.
So
what
happens
to
the
case-based
economy,
our
base
case
is
is
that
the
lower
part
of
the
case,
a
lower
income
spending
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stabilizers
supported
by
upper
income
spending
which
should
eventually
put
a
floor
under
the
job
market.
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01:10.240
So,
is
it
still
okay?
Aditya Bhave (Senior U.S. Economist)
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It's
okay,
but
it's
not
the
kind
of
K
that
one
would
be
really
worried
about.
So,
there's
different
types
of
K
is,
right?
What's
the
most
worrying
type
of
K?
The
most
worrying
K
is
one
in
which
upper
income
spending
is
just
about
holding
on
and
lower
income
spending
is
outright
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weak.
What
we're
seeing
in
our
card
data
by
contrast
is
that
lower
lower
income
spending
is
holding
on,
whereas
higher
income
spending
is
outright
strong.
So
it
is
a
K,
but
it's
not
the
most
worrying
kind
of
K,
and
we
think
that
eventually
if
this
continues
higher
income
folks,
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they
tend
to
spend
more
on
services,
and
that
should
mean
that
eventually
this
is
a
very
blue
color
service-driven
economy,
and
eventually
that
should
help
stabilize
the
labor
market,
as
I
mentioned
earlier.
Yeah,
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01:52.080
it
sounds
like
so
much
does
depend
on
the
labor
market.
How
much
does
the
labor
market
depend
on
interest
rates
continuing
to
come
down
and
not
just
hold
steady.
Aditya Bhave (Senior U.S. Economist)
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It
helps.
So
the
cuts
that
the
Fed
have
done
help
a
certain
degree.
The
other
thing
that
we
find
quite
encouraging
is
there's
obviously
this
chicken
and
egg
relationship
between
the
labor
market
and
the
consumer
over
extended
periods
of
time.
But
what
we
found
is
that
it's
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typically
consumer
spending
that
leads
jobs
rather
than
vice
versa.
So
the
stability,
I
would
say,
perhaps
more
than
stability,
resilience
in
consumer
spending
that
we've
seen
over
the
last
few
months,
I
think
bodes
quite
well
for
for
the
labor
market
going
forward.
Now
again,
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we're
not
talking
about
a
significant
acceleration,
but
we're
talking
about
a
world
in
which
the
unemployment
rate
stabilizes
around
where
it
is
now
and
then
eventually
starts
dropping
in
the
back
half
of
next
year.
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Is
consumer
sentiment
going
to
shift
and
does
it
have
to?
Aditya Bhave (Senior U.S. Economist)
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It
doesn't
have
to.
I
don't
know
if
it's
going
to
shift.
It's
difficult
to
predict
how
people
feel.
Obviously,
sentiment
has
been
disconnected
from
consumer
spending
for
the
last
four
years,
which
is
why
I'm
saying
it
doesn't
really
have
to
shift.
We've
had
an
extended
period
of
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weak
consumer
spending
with
sorry
strong
consumer
spending
with
weak
consumer
sentiment.
So
that
could
continue
for
a
while.
There's
other
reasons
for
consumer
weak
consumer
sentiment
likely
related
to
the
cumulative
increase
in
prices
of
price
levels
rather
than
just
inflation
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over
the
last
year
and
also
political
polarization
might
be
making
things
worse.
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Speaking
of
which,
we
got
midterms.
How
does
that
enter
into
your
picture
and
all
the
talk
about
affordability?
Aditya Bhave (Senior U.S. Economist)
03:31.600
It's
obviously
a
big
point
of
focus.
We
think
that
the
incentives
for
the
midterms
probably
lean
this
administration
towards
being
more
favorable
for
growth
on
trade
policy
over
the
next
year,
which
is
why
I
said,
"Look,
if
the
tariffs
don't
get
overturned,
then
we
think
the
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administration
will
move
very
quickly
towards
delivering
good
news
on
trade.
Perhaps
a
deal
with
China
to
bring
down
the
fentanyl
tariffs,
perhaps
a
renewal
of
the
US
MCA,
but
we
think
the
administration
will
certainly
be
focused
on
delivering
good
news
for
the
stock
market
and
Aditya Bhave (Senior U.S. Economist)
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for
the
economy
on
trade
policy.
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