New Edge Wealth's Jay Peters says 2026 will be the year of diversification
2025-12-30_19-57 • 4m 30s
Brian Sullivan (Anchor)
00:00.000
All
right,
welcome
back.
Let's
get
a
portfolio
power
check.
Your
first
guest
says
that
next
year
will
be
the
year
of
diversification
and
to
prove
it,
he
has
three
ideas
for
the
new
year.
Jay
Peters,
his
fund
manager
at
New
Edge
Wealth.
And
he
joins
us
now
on
set.
Jay,
thanks
for
Brian Sullivan (Anchor)
00:15.240
coming
in.
We
know
it's
like
near
the
end
of
the
year.
It's
New
Jersey,
so
we
appreciate
it.
All
Jay Peters (Fund Manager)
00:18.800
right.
Thanks
for
having
me,
Brian.
Brian Sullivan (Anchor)
00:19.840
Let's
Let's
start
here.
Stock
number
one
that
is
Gilead
Sciences
biotechs,
by
the
way,
have
been
pretty
red
hot
up
30%
on
the
year,
not
doing
great
today,
but
But
what
about
Gilead?
Yes.
Jay Peters (Fund Manager)
00:32.560
You
know,
the
healthcare
sector
has
been
been
through
a
tough
couple
of
years
and
and
this
has
certainly
been
a
bright
spot.
Um
Gilead's
a
highly
innovative
pharma
company
known
for
a
focus
on
high
value
you
know
deeply
R&D
intensive
drugs
and
and
they've
certainly
had
a
lot
of
Jay Peters (Fund Manager)
00:44.680
success
in
in
their
core
HIV
pipeline
and
you
know
this
is
a
company
with
two
dozen
drugs
in
market
50
drugs
in
their
pipeline
11
of
which
are
focused
on
oncology
and
we
think
that
might
provide
some
interesting
upside
in
the
coming
years.
But
at
the
end
of
the
day,
Gilead's
Jay Peters (Fund Manager)
00:58.720
just
a
a
stable
grower
company
with
a
2.8%
dividend
yield,
trading
at
a
reasonable
15
times
earnings.
And
it's
a
very
profitable
biotech
firm,
about
35%
free
cash
flow
margin.
So,
I
think
when
you're
thinking
about
the
rotation
ways
to
diversify
away
from
AI,
there's
there's
Jay Peters (Fund Manager)
01:12.760
certainly
some
high
quality
farmer
names
out
there
like
Brian Sullivan (Anchor)
01:14.640
Yeah,
I
mean
listen,
healthcare
is
going
to
be
here
for
a
long
time
and
this
company's
been
around
for
a
long
time
as
well.
As
has
our
next
company.
In
fact,
I
think
this
company,
Mueller
Industries,
is
over
a
hundred
years
old.
They're
based
sort
of
outside
Nashville.
They
do
Brian Sullivan (Anchor)
01:28.640
stuff
that
we
don't
talk
about
a
lot.
HVAC,
pipe
fittings,
things
like
this.
Not
a
name
I
can
recall
talking
about.
What
is
it
about
Mueller
Industries
that
attracts
you?
Jay Peters (Fund Manager)
01:39.040
Yeah,
so
thinking
about
diversification
not
only
across
sectors,
but
in
terms
of
capitalization,
Mueller
is
a
$13
billion
company
$13
billion
market
cap
company,
really
a
global
leader
in
the
manufacturing
and
distribution
of
copper
pipes
and
fittings.
So,
yes,
it
is
a
storied
Jay Peters (Fund Manager)
01:54.400
company.
It's
been
around
for
about
150
years.
I
Brian Sullivan (Anchor)
01:56.840
cut
I
cut
them
short.
I
said
only
a
100
Sorry
But
Jay Peters (Fund Manager)
02:01.840
maybe
a
straightforward
business,
but
they
are
vertically
integrated.
So
that
obviously
drives
a
lot
of
profitability,
pricing
power
and
it
allows
them
for
to
manage
their
quality
control.
And
historically
is
a
business
that's
been
highly
correlated
to
construction
activity
and
Jay Peters (Fund Manager)
02:15.760
housing
starts
and
Brian Sullivan (Anchor)
02:16.720
It's
like
a
data
center
play
a
little
bit
though.
If
they
do
HVAC,
that's
a
huge
part
of
the
data
So
Jay Peters (Fund Manager)
02:22.320
center
business
Yeah
like
like
a
lot
of
companies
in
recent
years
data
center
demand
has
certainly
become
a
big
part
of
their
business
and
that's
So
I
think
in
the
near
term,
you
have
that
data
center
story
supporting
some
of
the
underlying
growth.
But
if
we
do
get
a
better
Jay Peters (Fund Manager)
02:35.760
economic
environment
next
year,
lower
interest
rates,
maybe
a
little
bit
of
activity
in
the
housing
market,
their
core
business
could
start
to
reaccelerate.
And
the
last
piece
of
the
puzzle
is
copper
prices.
So
we've
talked
about
how
tight
that
market
is.
And
I
think,
you've
had
Jay Peters (Fund Manager)
02:48.680
a
lot
of
supply
disruption
this
year.
Demand
continues
to
be
robust.
And
and
ultimately
for
a
company
like
Mueller,
because
they're
able
to
manage
their
input
costs,
they
do
pass
on
a
lot
of
price
increases
to
to
end
market
consumers.
they're
benefiting
from
higher
copper
Jay Peters (Fund Manager)
03:01.440
prices.
Brian Sullivan (Anchor)
03:01.960
Speaking
of
power,
your
third
pick
and
final
pick,
one
that
I
know
well.
This
is
one
of
the
biggest
power
producers
in
the
United
States.
They
do
all
kinds
of
stuff.
They
do
a
lot
of
coal
too.
The
NRG
kind
of
does
everything.
Stocks
rocketed
though
this
year,
Jay,
up
70%.
You
Brian Sullivan (Anchor)
03:18.480
still
see
more
upside,
but
how?
Jay Peters (Fund Manager)
03:20.200
We
do.
So,
yeah,
it
definitely
had
a
great
first
half
of
the
year.
It's
been
been
kind
of
sideways
here
in
the
last
six
months.
Um,
you
know,
when
we
look
at
the
AI
infrastructure
theme,
the
power
generation
story
continues
continues
to
be
one
of
the
biggest
bottlenecks.
If
data
Jay Peters (Fund Manager)
03:32.040
center
power
consumption
is
expected
to
3x
over
the
next
5
years,
there
clearly
isn't
enough
power
supply
in
this
country.
It's
why
we're
seeing
higher
electricity
prices,
why
we
saw
another
record
PJM
auction
a
few
a
few
weeks
ago.
Yes.
Brian Sullivan (Anchor)
03:43.080
And
By
the
way,
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
We're
the
only
show,
I
think,
in
America
that
talked
about
it,
this
show,
because
it's
such
a
huge
deal.
And
Okay
NRG's
a
big
seller
into
the
Mid-Atlantic
energy
grid.
So,
I'm
I'm
really
glad
Yeah,
you
mentioned
exactly.
Jay Peters (Fund Manager)
03:56.280
that
I
mean
that's
why
some
of
these
independent
producers
are
are
we
think
are
great
well
positioned
business
is
is
the
the
fact
that
prices
continue
to
be
to
rise
and
demand
continues
to
be
robust.
And
NRG,
a
company
that
is
one
of
the
largest
independent
producers,
about
25
Jay Peters (Fund Manager)
04:09.000
gigawatts
of
of
generation
capacity.
A
lot
of
that
is
is
focused
on
natural
gas,
which
is
a
more
efficient,
cost-effective
form
of
generation.
We
think
that's
going
to
be
key
to
supplying
data
centers
and
the
grid
going
forward.
And
ultimately,
a
high
quality
business,
trades
Jay Peters (Fund Manager)
04:22.040
around
19
times
earnings,
you
know,
double-digit
revenue
and
EBITDA
growth
and
and
positive
free
cash
flow
generation.
So
a
lot
to
like
for
from
a
fundamental
and
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