Momentum into 2026: Mark Smith, Wells Fargo Advisors
2025-12-29_12-13 • 4m 30s
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00:00.000
I
want
to
talk
to
you
about
the
Santa
Claus
Rally.
Are
you
a
believer?
We
haven't
really
talked
about
it
this
show.
We're
kind
of
in
the
middle
of
it
right
now.
Do
you
see
it
coming
through
this
year?
We've
never
missed
three
years
in
a
row.
We
haven't
had
it
the
last
two
years.
Mark Smith (Senior Vice President)
00:11.320
Listen,
the
consumer
is
showing
that
they
have
a
lot
of
of
um
of
money
left
to
spend
and
um
and
I
think
that
you're
going
to
see
that
retail
uh
is
going
to
show
the
numbers
uh
are
are
very
good
this
year
and
I
think
that
Santa
Claus
Rally
is
going
to
show
momentum
into
2026.
All
Mark Smith (Senior Vice President)
00:26.840
right.
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00:27.320
So
equity
market
we're
seeing
that
possibly
a
Santa
Claus
Rally
used
seem
bullish,
but
we're
definitely
seeing
a
rally
despite
today
actually.
When
it
comes
to
metals,
just
finished
last
week
with
gold
at
record
high,
silver
at
a
record
high.
Um
again,
pulling
back
today,
but
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00:39.120
still
a
tremendous
growth.
And
we
were
talking
about
the
fact
that
for
the
first
time
with
the
exception
of
COVID
since
the
dot
com
bubble,
an
ounce
of
silver
is
worth
more
than
a
barrel
of
oil.
What
does
that
say
to
you
about
this
market
going
into
the
new
year?
Mark Smith (Senior Vice President)
00:52.000
Uh
commodities
have
obviously
over
the
last
three
years
shown
a
lot
of
resilience
and
I
think
it's
going
to
continue.
Um
beginning
I
think
that
most
uh
management
firms
are
saying
that
golds
could
hit
$5,000
in
2026
an
ounce.
So
I
think
that
it'll
continue
silver
right
along
Mark Smith (Senior Vice President)
01:07.120
with
it.
Uh
number
of
reasons
for
that
is
a
lot
of
trepidation
in
regards
to
equity
pricing.
And
then
you're
also
seeing
a
lot
of
uh
you
know
coming
stuff
coming
out
of
Washington
where
we're
not
really
getting
our
fiscal
house
in
order.
So
all
that's
a
great
backdrop.
All
Mark Smith (Senior Vice President)
01:20.280
right.
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01:20.400
Your
worth
the
day
today
is
momentum.
What
momentum
are
you
looking
at?
So
much
momentum
going
on.
Uh
what
particular
area
of
momentum
are
you
seeing
and
is
it
momentum
that
carries
into
the
new
year?
Does
it
carry
through
next
year?
Mark Smith (Senior Vice President)
01:31.600
As
a
portfolio
manager,
loving
the
momentum
I'm
seeing
from
a
number
of
different
sectors.
Uh
one,
communication
services,
two,
the
industrials,
three,
the
financials,
all
done
very
well.
When
you
look
at
the
financials,
AI
is
kind
of
leading
the
charge
there,
making
sure
that
Mark Smith (Senior Vice President)
01:44.400
these
financials
are
look
acting
more
like
tech
companies.
On
the
industrial
side,
you're
seeing
that
the
data
center
build
out
and
all
this
money
that
came
out
of
the
government
to
rebuild
national
infrastructures
is
going
to
propel
that
sector
even
further.
Um
and
then
you're
Mark Smith (Senior Vice President)
01:57.440
going
to
see
communication
services.
I
think
with
all
the
consolidation
you've
seen
this
year,
you're
going
to
see
really
start
to
see
that
sector
shine
as
well.
We're
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02:03.800
just
showing
a
best
performing
sector
year
to
date.
It's
also
your
pick
for
us
today.
So
that's
some
of
the
momentum
you're
talking
about.
You
see
the
momentum
in
that
particular
sector
carrying
into
the
new
year.
Are
there
I
know
you
can't
talk
specific
stocks,
but
is
there
a
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02:14.240
certain
theme
that
you're
looking
at
in
com
services?
Mark Smith (Senior Vice President)
02:17.160
Yeah.
Well,
listen,
the
theme
is
again
what
I
just
talked
about,
which
is
the
consolidation.
I've
I've
never
seen
it
before
in
my
in
my
career
where
you
hear
this
much
consolidation
over
the
last
year,
companies
merging,
and
I
think
that's
going
to
be
great
for
profit
margins.
I
Mark Smith (Senior Vice President)
02:30.880
I
also
think
that
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
um
interesting
IPOs
that
come
out.
I
think
SpaceX
the
name
one
is
going
to
really
propel
that
sector
um
and
give
it
catalyzed
going
further
into
the
next
year.
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02:41.040
What
do
you
think
SpaceX
goes
into
com
services,
not
tech?
Mark Smith (Senior Vice President)
02:43.840
I
I
think
that
when
you're
looking
at
the
uh
the
satellites
and
all
that
what
I'm
talking
about,
I
think
you're
going
to
really
see
the
change
um
and
and
how
we
traditionally
look
at
communication
services
over
the
next
decade.
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02:54.760
All
right.
Um
coming
up
later
this
week,
we
get
the
Fed
minutes.
Last
day
of
the
year,
uh
we're
kind
of
used
to
some
backwards-looking
data,
delayed
data
this
year
due
to
the
government
shutdown.
How
meaningful
are
these
Fed
minutes,
especially
for
your
thoughts
going
into
2026?
Mark Smith (Senior Vice President)
03:07.720
I
think
they're
really
interesting.
I
mean,
listen,
you
you
in
order
for
us
to
be
propelled
higher
in
2026,
I
think
the
rates
and
where
they
are
going
to
be
is
going
to
be
a
huge
uh
backdrop.
And
so,
when
you
have
administration
that's
really
pushing
for
lower
rates,
I
I
think
Mark Smith (Senior Vice President)
03:20.600
that's
going
to
help
businesses
uh
be
able
to
get
more
better
lending
and
for
our
consumers
to
be
able
to
either
buy
real
estate
or
to
invest
in
their
business
who
are
small
business
owners.
So
I
think
all
this
is
really
important
when
you're
looking
at
a
backdrop
of
having
2026
Mark Smith (Senior Vice President)
03:35.480
be
a
positive
year.
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03:36.400
How
many
cuts
do
you
see
coming
up
next
year?
And
can
these
Fed
minutes
can
they
change
your
mind
knowing
the
change
that
we're
going
to
see
on
the
FOMC
next
year
with
Jay
Powell's
replacement
and
maybe
some
other
key
members
also
changing.
Mark Smith (Senior Vice President)
03:48.400
Listen,
I
I
the
Fed
has
a
hard
task
right
now,
right?
I
mean,
you
have
the
fact
that
they
have
just
lowered
rates
and
you're
going
to
have
a
new
Fed
chairman
come
in
who
um
is
under
the
pressure
of
the
presidency
to
possibly
lower
rates
even
further.
I
can't
see
more
than
one
or
Mark Smith (Senior Vice President)
04:02.800
two
honestly
because
I
I
think
we
just
fed
has
a
difficult
job
in
keeping
inflation
low
and
and
and
that
in
inflation
is
going
to
be
a
big
part
of
how
they
make
that
that
decision
and
it's
going
to
be
very
interesting
to
see.
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