Fully valued market needs fundamentals as leadership broadens, says Citi’s Drew Pettit
December 23, 2025 • 3m 41s
Frank Holland (Anchor)
00:00.070
drew
i
want
to
start
off
talking
to
you
about
some
of
the
things
we're
seeing
in
the
markets
gold
and
silver
at
highs
financials
it
highs
we're
seeing
materials
and
some
other
cyclical
sectors
outperform
tech
what
does
that
say
to
you
about
investors
going
into
twenty
twenty
six
Drew Pettit (Director-U.S. Equity Strategy)
00:13.670
so
look
looking
at
the
equity
market
action
i
think
investors
aren't
afraid
of
risk
right
now
look
we're
in
a
later
stage
of
the
bull
market
we
expect
volatility
we
expect
more
volatility
a
lot
of
good
news
is
priced
in
it's
going
to
whip
saw
stocks
up
and
down
quite
a
bit
but
Drew Pettit (Director-U.S. Equity Strategy)
00:29.910
we
still
think
investors
want
to
buy
risk
and
there's
two
types
of
risk
they're
they're
going
to
own
growth
around
the
secular
AI
story
and
cyclicals
because
you
get
some
leverage
to
the
real
economy
hanging
in
there
in
an
earnings
growth
inflection
which
we've
been
waiting
for
Drew Pettit (Director-U.S. Equity Strategy)
00:45.070
for
years
so
to
us
look
it's
it's
risk
on
people
like
buying
risk
and
right
now
the
most
leverage
to
that
at
least
short
term
is
cyclicals
all
right
when
you
Frank Holland (Anchor)
00:53.670
get
to
your
word
of
the
day
it
is
symmetry
what
symmetry
are
you
seeing
out
here
Drew Pettit (Director-U.S. Equity Strategy)
00:58.150
it's
funny
the
symmetry
we're
seeing
is
forward
looking
returns
and
while
symmetry
might
feel
like
a
good
word
it's
actually
bad
because
equity
markets
over
time
tend
to
have
asymmetry
to
the
upside
but
when
you've
priced
in
over
ten
percent
compound
annual
growth
and
earnings
Drew Pettit (Director-U.S. Equity Strategy)
01:15.030
for
the
S
and
P
five
hundred
your
upside
and
downside
for
the
year
ahead
at
least
to
us
looks
a
little
bit
more
balanced
so
risk
is
going
to
be
a
thing
in
twenty
twenty
six
we're
going
to
have
to
wait
our
way
through
it
and
when
you
have
those
big
upside
days
expect
pretty
Drew Pettit (Director-U.S. Equity Strategy)
01:31.670
symmetrical
downside
days
in
the
year
ahead
still
with
the
tilt
to
the
upside
given
our
seventy
seven
hundred
S
and
P
five
hundred
price
target
all
right
i
want
Frank Holland (Anchor)
01:40.150
to
get
to
your
pick
it's
boston
scientific
in
the
healthcare
space
why
are
you
so
focused
here
on
a
a
med
tech
company
as
opposed
to
more
of
a
pure
play
healthcare
company
Drew Pettit (Director-U.S. Equity Strategy)
01:50.980
so
it's
interesting
this
has
been
a
really
nice
way
to
kind
of
balance
the
the
AI
related
tech
out
there
a
little
bit
more
physical
tech
and
look
it's
a
company
that
got
hit
by
tariffs
has
had
policy
headwinds
but
when
you
actually
look
at
its
performance
it's
been
absolutely
Drew Pettit (Director-U.S. Equity Strategy)
02:09.660
great
the
company
is
hitting
on
a
bunch
of
products
within
its
portfolio
it's
expected
to
expand
gross
margins
by
half
a
percent
net
margins
by
a
full
percent
and
actually
get
efficiency
up
as
well
and
then
when
you
look
at
all
of
its
investments
in
the
capex
and
R
and
D
it's
Drew Pettit (Director-U.S. Equity Strategy)
02:25.110
spending
it's
getting
great
incremental
cash
returns
there
so
it's
checking
a
lot
of
boxes
for
us
as
a
way
to
play
accelerating
growth
into
next
year
all
right
speaking
Frank Holland (Anchor)
02:34.030
of
checking
the
box
i
got
to
ask
you
about
the
santa
claus
rally
that
beer
would
officially
start
tomorrow
we
had
ryan
dietrich
on
the
show
earlier
he
says
we've
missed
the
santa
rally
the
last
two
years
but
we've
never
missed
two
out
of
the
last
three
years
ironically
enough
Frank Holland (Anchor)
02:45.790
the
eagles
division
winners
in
the
last
two
out
of
three
years
but
i
only
want
to
focus
on
the
santa
claus
rally
are
you
a
believer
that
we're
going
to
get
get
that
Drew Pettit (Director-U.S. Equity Strategy)
02:54.190
i'm
a
bill
lieber
frank
not
an
eagles
guy
but
look
short
term
i'm
not
really
sure
where
we're
going
to
trade
to
be
honest
with
you
we've
seen
a
little
bit
of
volatility
but
we're
in
this
bit
of
a
news
vacuum
here
look
sentiment
's
high
if
you
don't
get
new
news
you
tend
to
get
Drew Pettit (Director-U.S. Equity Strategy)
03:09.630
these
grinds
higher
but
if
we
get
any
news
maybe
around
inflation
some
retail
spending
anything
to
kind
of
dense
sentiment
in
that
vacuum
of
liquidity
you
can
get
a
lot
of
choppiness
so
to
us
not
sure
if
we're
get
it
or
not
but
again
longer
term
fundamentally
we're
positive
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