Dr. Ashish Jha talks Novo Nordisk getting approval for Wegovy pill
December 23, 2025 • 3m 1s
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00:00.110
joining
me
now
is
doctor
ashish
jha
he
is
the
outgoing
dean
of
the
school
of
public
health
at
brown
university
in
the
former
white
house
covad
nineteen
response
coordinator
doctor
thank
you
for
joining
us
today
? (Reporter)
00:12.190
so
what
do
you
see
just
if
we
can
take
a
step
back
here
is
the
total
addressable
market
for
a
pill
of
GLP
one
how
big
ultimately
do
you
think
this
could
be
Ashish Jha (Outgoing Dean)
00:22.510
yes
first
of
all
thanks
for
having
me
back
i
think
this
is
a
big
deal
and
let
me
explain
why
i
mean
more
than
a
hundred
million
americans
have
obesity
we
know
these
pills
are
extraordinarily
effective
for
obesity
they're
very
very
good
or
this
drug
whether
it's
injectable
or
or
Ashish Jha (Outgoing Dean)
00:34.950
or
oral
is
great
for
preventing
cardiovascular
disease
liver
disease
lots
and
lots
of
problems
Ashish Jha (Outgoing Dean)
00:41.070
about
ten
to
fifteen
percent
of
americans
hate
injections
just
hate
it
will
not
take
an
injectable
for
them
this
becomes
much
easier
the
supply
chain
here
the
ability
to
get
it
out
into
pharmacies
to
get
it
out
to
costco
all
of
that
is
so
much
much
easier
with
a
pill
that
i
see
Ashish Jha (Outgoing Dean)
00:56.750
just
a
lot
more
americans
and
people
around
the
world
taking
an
oral
version
of
this
drug
? (Reporter)
01:00.830
americans
do
you
think
there's
a
obviously
a
global
market
for
it
as
well
how
do
you
see
the
the
competitive
environment
shaping
up
here
Ashish Jha (Outgoing Dean)
01:09.790
yeah
so
novo
goes
first
lily
is
not
far
behind
we
don't
know
exactly
when
lily
will
get
across
the
finish
line
but
i
suspect
probably
three
four
months
behind
behind
wegovy
you
know
and
novo
Ashish Jha (Outgoing Dean)
01:21.120
's
job
is
to
try
to
get
as
many
people
signed
up
as
possible
because
once
they're
on
it
and
doing
fine
they're
going
to
be
loath
to
switch
so
i
think
you're
going
to
see
this
very
mad
rush
in
the
beginning
to
sign
up
as
many
people
as
possible
before
lilly
comes
out
with
this
Ashish Jha (Outgoing Dean)
01:34.440
drug
it's
possible
Ashish Jha (Outgoing Dean)
01:35.560
and
i
think
likely
the
lilly
drug
will
be
a
little
bit
more
effective
in
terms
of
weight
loss
but
both
of
them
are
extraordinary
effective
at
getting
people
to
lose
weight
and
getting
all
the
benefits
of
that
weight
loss
if
? (Reporter)
01:45.390
you
see
even
just
a
ten
to
fifteen
percent
uptick
which
you've
described
as
the
cohort
of
people
who
are
loath
to
use
an
injection
so
if
you
see
that
that
much
more
uptake
here
if
these
drugs
work
to
and
reduce
obesity
and
other
comorbidities
will
that
drive
overall
spending
on
? (Reporter)
02:04.310
health
care
down
i
mean
what
are
some
of
the
best
case
scenarios
here
in
terms
of
health
care
spending
in
terms
of
just
longevity
Ashish Jha (Outgoing Dean)
02:12.750
yeah
so
those
are
two
separate
issues
in
my
mind
what's
going
to
happen
to
healthcare
spending
and
what's
going
to
happen
to
longevity
look
if
if
a
lot
more
people
take
this
there
is
no
question
in
my
mind
that
we're
going
to
see
huge
benefits
from
a
health
point
of
view
one
Ashish Jha (Outgoing Dean)
02:24.030
of
the
reasons
americans
live
shorter
lives
than
europeans
is
we
have
a
lot
more
obesity
in
this
country
and
if
we
can
cure
that
through
a
pill
or
an
injection
that's
going
to
have
huge
downstream
benefits
from
health
Ashish Jha (Outgoing Dean)
02:35.110
upfront
we're
going
to
pay
more
upfront
these
drugs
are
going
to
be
expensive
even
if
the
prices
come
down
it's
going
to
be
a
new
cost
to
the
system
so
for
the
first
few
years
i
think
costs
are
going
to
go
up
but
hey
health
is
going
to
improve
and
that
is
really
important
and
Ashish Jha (Outgoing Dean)
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hopefully
Ashish Jha (Outgoing Dean)
02:49.070
down
the
road
five
ten
years
down
the
road
we
can
get
some
of
the
benefits
in
terms
of
costs
as
well
but
this
is
not
a
cost
play
for
healthcare
this
is
a
health
play
and
i
think
it's
good
like
as
a
health
person
i
want
to
see
people
live
longer
healthier
lives
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