Charitable giving hit an all-time record of $590B this year, says Boys & Girls Club's Lisa Anastasi
December 19, 2025 • 5m 2s
Andrew Ross Sorkin (Anchor)
00:00.070
year's
most
important
giving
season
has
arrived
amid
economic
uncertainty
but
corporate
philanthropy
is
holding
strong
joining
us
right
now
is
lisa
anastasia
how
do
i
pronounce
your
last
name
i
apologize
i
feel
like
i'm
mispronouncing
it
Lisa Anastasi (Chief Development Officer)
00:11.470
or
just
anastasia
don't
worry
about
it
Andrew Ross Sorkin (Anchor)
00:13.310
she
is
the
chief
development
and
external
relations
officer
at
boys
and
girls
club
of
america
good
morning
to
you
help
us
understand
what's
going
on
in
the
world
of
philanthropy
right
now
especially
well
there's
the
corporate
giving
and
then
individual
giving
what
are
you
seeing
Andrew Ross Sorkin (Anchor)
00:26.070
yeah
Lisa Anastasi (Chief Development Officer)
00:26.350
it's
really
interesting
you
know
despite
some
of
the
economic
uncertainties
and
pressures
of
this
year
charitable
giving
hit
an
all
time
record
of
five
hundred
and
ninety
billion
dollars
and
corporate
giving
is
actually
the
highest
it's
been
in
forty
years
and
there's
a
good
Lisa Anastasi (Chief Development Officer)
00:40.910
reason
for
that
corporate
giving
is
a
business
strategy
it
helps
drive
sales
it
improves
customer
loyalty
increases
brand
awareness
so
at
the
end
of
the
day
giving
back
is
good
for
business
Andrew Ross Sorkin (Anchor)
00:51.750
so
but
you're
so
you're
saying
now
that
corporations
are
giving
more
money
charitably
than
than
they
ever
have
because
there
was
a
real
pullback
yes
on
charitable
giving
for
a
long
time
? (Anchor)
01:00.070
there
was
post
two
thousand
seventeen
with
the
changes
in
the
tax
structure
correct
that
allowed
everybody
to
not
have
to
itemize
but
by
not
itemizing
you
wouldn't
get
your
deductions
on
the
charitable
Lisa Anastasi (Chief Development Officer)
01:11.190
but
what's
interesting
is
with
giving
tuesday
results
recently
it
was
a
thirteen
percent
increase
year
over
year
four
billion
dollars
donated
and
thirty
eight
million
people
participating
so
consumers
still
want
to
give
they're
just
giving
in
different
ways
Andrew Ross Sorkin (Anchor)
01:23.350
but
i'm
curious
about
the
the
corporate
giving
because
you
know
back
in
the
eighties
corporations
gave
actually
a
lot
of
money
there
was
a
huge
amount
of
philanthropic
giving
but
people
thought
of
it
as
marketing
sure
oftentimes
they
thought
that
CEO
's
were
actually
abusing
the
Andrew Ross Sorkin (Anchor)
01:36.870
sort
of
company
coffers
because
they
had
their
sort
of
pet
projects
there
was
a
real
pullback
on
corporate
giving
because
shareholders
said
what
are
you
doing
with
my
money
you
shouldn't
be
giving
my
money
away
give
it
to
me
and
i'll
give
it
away
yeah
you
think
there's
something
Andrew Ross Sorkin (Anchor)
01:50.950
changing
Lisa Anastasi (Chief Development Officer)
01:51.670
i
do
i
mean
corporate
giving
now
is
actually
a
business
strategy
right
fifty
percent
of
young
adults
say
they're
more
likely
to
buy
from
a
brand
that
gives
back
and
almost
sixty
percent
of
consumers
say
they'd
be
willing
to
pay
more
for
a
product
that
does
good
so
i
think
Lisa Anastasi (Chief Development Officer)
02:04.990
companies
are
now
seeing
this
actually
it's
a
key
way
to
improve
customer
loyalty
and
connect
with
key
audiences
? (Anchor)
02:10.630
as
the
corporate
giving
giving
taken
over
for
a
drop
in
individuals
giving
or
is
individual
giving
up
too
individual
Lisa Anastasi (Chief Development Officer)
02:17.390
giving
is
up
too
so
they
both
have
been
rising
Andrew Ross Sorkin (Anchor)
02:20.720
and
how
much
are
you
getting
from
these
donor
advised
funds
and
things
like
that
because
that's
actually
also
a
major
shift
among
the
wealthy
if
you
will
in
america
Lisa Anastasi (Chief Development Officer)
02:29.510
yes
so
donor
advised
funds
continue
to
grow
depending
on
the
year
as
much
as
ten
or
twenty
percent
year
over
year
and
then
we
expect
to
see
that
rise
over
time
as
well
Andrew Ross Sorkin (Anchor)
02:37.990
and
when
you
think
just
about
sort
of
the
future
of
of
giving
when
you
think
about
the
future
of
giving
how
much
of
it
do
you
when
you
like
think
about
your
own
budget
for
example
is
going
to
end
up
coming
from
the
sort
of
corporate
side
are
you
spending
more
time
trying
to
Andrew Ross Sorkin (Anchor)
02:53.630
raise
money
there
or
are
you
going
more
after
the
individual
world
Lisa Anastasi (Chief Development Officer)
02:57.630
so
when
you
look
at
giving
as
a
whole
across
the
country
individuals
is
still
the
largest
portion
in
some
cases
corporate
giving
only
makes
up
seven
percent
of
the
amount
of
money
at
nonprofit
raises
but
a
lot
of
times
it
varies
depending
on
the
organization
Andrew Ross Sorkin (Anchor)
03:11.640
when
you
when
you
think
about
matching
yeah
is
the
other
piece
of
this
has
always
been
a
match
yeah
some
companies
actually
got
rid
of
their
matches
are
you
seeing
more
companies
putting
matches
back
in
what's
happening
there
Lisa Anastasi (Chief Development Officer)
03:22.590
we
are
particularly
because
employees
are
expecting
that
of
their
companies
today
about
seventy
percent
say
they
want
to
work
for
a
company
that
gives
back
and
offers
matching
gift
programs
what
we're
also
seeing
is
a
rise
of
matching
gifts
with
consumer
programs
so
for
example
Lisa Anastasi (Chief Development Officer)
03:36.070
we
had
a
big
matching
gift
with
planet
fitness
during
giving
tuesday
kohl's
is
doing
one
right
now
as
well
consumers
love
it
it's
like
buying
something
on
sale
right
dollars
go
further
Andrew Ross Sorkin (Anchor)
03:45.470
message
one
final
question
as
i'm
sure
this
is
probably
not
on
your
bingo
card
so
one
of
the
things
that's
actually
happened
it
was
quite
remarkable
earlier
this
week
you
saw
ray
dalio
i
don't
know
if
you
focused
on
this
gave
money
this
is
now
through
the
treasury
department
Andrew Ross Sorkin (Anchor)
03:58.830
this
is
the
the
trump
accounts
that
are
starting
and
you
can
follow
this
michael
dell
participated
gave
six
billion
dollars
and
you're
able
now
to
donate
directly
to
young
young
kids
right
effectively
through
a
government
vehicle
this
is
really
the
first
time
we've
ever
had
Andrew Ross Sorkin (Anchor)
04:13.990
anything
like
this
before
and
you
ray
dally
earlier
this
week
did
it
for
every
kid
i
believe
in
the
state
of
connecticut
you
can
do
it
now
by
zip
code
so
you
can
actually
go
state
by
state
or
street
by
street
and
i
actually
wonder
how
you
think
that
depending
on
how
trump
Andrew Ross Sorkin (Anchor)
04:29.110
accounts
is
what
they're
called
some
people
invest
in
america
or
invest
in
america
whether
ultimately
actually
that
becomes
a
real
vehicle
for
charity
that
may
be
fabulous
in
certain
ways
but
actually
could
ultimately
take
away
from
other
charities
you
know
Lisa Anastasi (Chief Development Officer)
04:45.190
that's
an
interesting
i
think
we
have
a
lot
to
learn
there
i
would
say
in
general
charities
have
been
around
a
long
time
right
boys
and
girls
clubs
has
been
around
for
a
hundred
and
sixty
years
i
think
a
lot
of
times
that
structure
that
that
strategy
is
really
important
so
i
Lisa Anastasi (Chief Development Officer)
04:57.990
think
you'll
see
a
rise
but
i
think
charitable
giving
will
still
be
strong
OK
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