Brian Sullivan (Anchor) 00:00.670
demand for AI infrastructure keeps growing but a bit of a red flag is being raised on financing some of these data centers diana olek here now with the property play on data centers dana you just heard all that discussion and we talked so much about all the investors getting in
Brian Sullivan (Anchor) 00:18.910
but there are also now some that are either getting out or sitting out
Diana Olick (Senior Real Estate Correspondent) 00:23.840
yeah i mean look brian you know i am all about the buildings that's all i focus on and i'm hearing that commercial real estate investors are increasingly concerned about hyperscalers who are turning to private equity rather than just funding the buildings themselves they're
Diana Olick (Senior Real Estate Correspondent) 00:37.920
entering into these you know lease agreements which could end up being risky if the technology changes what does that mean it means if it becomes more efficient and it no longer requires these huge buildings these huge spaces actually sat down with billionaire developer fernando
Diana Olick (Senior Real Estate Correspondent) 00:51.040
de leon who he predicts he predicts hyperscalers will be trying to get out of their leases earlier than expected
Fernando De Leon (CEO) 00:59.950
i look at a data center that's ten billion dollars right first of all there haven't been any exits above you know four or five billion dollars you haven't seen comp so that worries me quite a bit then i see large technology companies the largest companies on the planet with four
Fernando De Leon (CEO) 01:16.310
trillion dollar market cap saying i don't want to own this asset i don't want to have this on my balance sheet so i ask why why doesn't the largest company in the world want to own its own asset that is very very important to them right this is the AI business is everything for
Fernando De Leon (CEO) 01:33.310
them today for the large hyperscalers and so they're saying no you you build it you finance it so
Diana Olick (Senior Real Estate Correspondent) 01:40.610
his concern is that when big private equity is left holding the bag because of all this risk it's not their money it's the investors in the funds and guess what that's your money that's a lot of that in pension funds of everybody in the country brian
Brian Sullivan (Anchor) 01:53.090
yeah it is and there's also diane i know you covered this on the property side there's also been this huge pushback from just towns they're they're worried about electricity rates they're
Diana Olick (Senior Real Estate Correspondent) 02:02.970
worried about water today chandler arizona you don't want it in your backyard you don't want your electric bills going up they're getting pushed back all over the country country i mean i'm right by virginia where it's data center central but you're seeing pushback in regions
Diana Olick (Senior Real Estate Correspondent) 02:15.710
all over the country small towns so the politics of this if you look at some of the forecasts for the commercial real estate market in twenty twenty six a lot of it on the data center sign is concerned about politics local politics pushing back on these data centers yeah
Diana Olick (Senior Real Estate Correspondent) 02:29.910
chandler arizona today five nothing to vote or yesterday voting down a new they got a lot of water issues in arizona i get it but still the public pushback maybe the great variable not talking enough about diana look thank you very much