EP20: Yann LeCun - part 13/15
December 15, 2025 • 1h 50m 6s
Yann LeCun (Chief AI Scientist)
00:00.430
i
have
no
idea
that's
what
i
have
a
sister
who
you
know
is
not
in
tech
but
she's
also
a
professor
my
brother
was
a
professor
before
he
moved
to
google
he
he
doesn't
work
on
AI
machine
learning
he's
very
careful
not
to
he's
a
younger
brother
six
years
younger
than
me
and
he
works
Yann LeCun (Chief AI Scientist)
00:22.880
on
operations
research
and
optimization
essentially
which
now
is
actually
also
being
invaded
by
machine
learning
? (?)
00:35.400
yeah
OK
one
more
question
so
like
if
the
world
models
work
in
twenty
years
from
now
what
is
the
what
is
the
dream
like
how
what
how
does
it
look
like
how
does
i
know
like
our
lives
will
be
Yann LeCun (Chief AI Scientist)
00:53.470
total
world
domination
OK
it's
a
joke
the
the
i
i
said
this
status
because
this
is
what
linda
starvalds
used
to
say
you
say
like
what's
your
goal
with
linux
and
you
say
total
i
thought
it
was
super
funny
and
it
actually
succeeded
i
mean
basically
you
know
to
first
approximation
Yann LeCun (Chief AI Scientist)
01:20.630
every
computer
in
the
world
runs
linux
there's
only
a
few
desktops
that
don't
and
a
few
iphones
but
you
know
everything
else
with
linux
so
really
like
you
know
having
you
know
pushing
towards
like
a
recipe
for
training
and
building
intelligence
systems
perhaps
all
the
way
to
Yann LeCun (Chief AI Scientist)
01:39.910
human
intelligence
or
more
and
and
basically
building
AI
systems
that
would
you
know
help
people
and
humanity
more
generally
in
their
daily
lives
at
all
times
amplifying
human
intelligence
will
be
their
boss
right
it's
not
like
those
things
are
going
to
dominate
us
because
again
Yann LeCun (Chief AI Scientist)
01:59.350
it's
not
because
something
is
intelligent
that
it
wants
to
dominate
those
are
two
different
things
in
humanity
you
know
we
are
hardwired
having
to
influence
other
people
and
sometimes
it's
through
domination
sometimes
it's
through
prestige
but
the
hardwired
evolution
to
do
this
Yann LeCun (Chief AI Scientist)
02:20.070
because
we
are
a
social
species
there's
no
reason
we
would
build
those
kind
of
drive
into
into
our
intelligent
systems
and
it's
not
like
they're
going
to
develop
those
kinds
of
drives
by
themselves
so
so
yeah
i'm
quite
optimistic
? (?)
02:37.280
me
too
so
am
i
all
right
OK
so
we
have
final
questions
from
the
audience
and
so
yeah
let's
start
and
if
you
were
starting
your
AI
career
today
what
skills
and
research
directions
would
you
focus
on
Yann LeCun (Chief AI Scientist)
02:55.400
i
get
a
lot
this
question
a
lot
from
young
students
or
parents
of
future
students
i
mean
i
think
you
should
learn
things
that
have
a
long
shelf
life
and
you
should
learn
things
that
help
you
learn
to
learn
because
technology
is
you
know
evolving
so
quickly
that
you
all
kind
of
Yann LeCun (Chief AI Scientist)
03:16.270
you
know
the
ability
to
learn
really
quickly
and
basically
that
can
that
is
done
by
you
know
learning
very
busy
so
in
the
context
of
stem
right
science
and
technology
engineering
mathematics
and
i'm
talking
about
humanities
here
this
is
although
you
should
learn
philosophy
this
Yann LeCun (Chief AI Scientist)
03:41.310
is
done
by
learning
things
i
have
a
long
shared
life
so
the
joke
i
say
is
that
if
you
first
of
all
you
the
things
i
have
a
long
shelf
life
tend
to
not
be
computer
science
OK
so
here's
a
computer
science
professor
you
know
are
you
against
studying
computer
science
don't
count
? (?)
03:58.440
don't
count
to
study
Yann LeCun (Chief AI Scientist)
04:02.520
and
have
a
terrible
coefficient
to
make
which
is
i
studied
electrical
engineering
as
an
undergrad
so
i'm
not
a
real
computer
scientist
OK
but
what
what
we
should
do
is
learn
kind
of
basic
things
in
mathematics
in
modeling
mathematics
that
can
be
connected
with
reality
you
tend
Yann LeCun (Chief AI Scientist)
04:20.190
to
learn
this
kind
of
stuff
in
engineering
in
some
schools
that's
linked
with
computer
science
but
sort
of
you
know
electrical
engineering
mechanical
engineering
et
cetera
engineering
disciplines
you're
all
you're
running
in
the
US
calculus
one
two
three
that
gives
you
a
good
Yann LeCun (Chief AI Scientist)
04:35.110
basis
right
computer
science
you
don't
you
know
you
can
get
away
with
just
calculus
one
that's
not
enough
right
you
know
we're
learning
you
know
probability
theory
and
linear
algebra
you
know
all
the
stuff
that
are
really
kind
of
basic
and
then
if
you
do
network
engineering
Yann LeCun (Chief AI Scientist)
04:52.680
things
like
i
don't
know
control
tiers
or
signal
processing
like
all
of
those
methods
optimization
you
know
all
of
those
methods
are
really
useful
for
things
like
AI
and
then
you
can
you
can
basically
learn
similar
things
in
physics
because
physics
is
all
about
like
what
should
Yann LeCun (Chief AI Scientist)
05:10.240
i
represent
about
reality
to
be
able
to
make
predictive
models
right
and
that's
really
what
intelligence
is
about
so
so
i
think
you
can
learn
most
of
what
you
need
to
learn
also
if
you
go
through
a
physics
a
curriculum
but
obviously
you
need
to
learn
enough
computer
science
to
Yann LeCun (Chief AI Scientist)
05:28.190
kind
of
program
and
use
computers
and
even
though
AI
is
going
to
help
you
be
more
efficient
at
programming
you
still
need
to
know
like
how
how
to
do
this
what